people can stop committing ARSON ,,just a thought

Thank the irrational, illogical, and throughly ignorant tree huggers. Because of them more forest has been burned to the ground than would have been harvested for use by human beings.

3 of our favorite hiking trails along the North Umpqua Trail are gone. Breaks my heart.

Climate change, down power lines, arsonists break my heart.

11 people arrested for arson in Oregon. Not from climate change. Don’t even need a mask see the COVID-19 page on leftmedialies.com on the climate change page is a keynote address with COVID-19 slides in it. Please show this to everyone you know

Arson seems to be the new climate change.

Blame the democrats for not maintaining forest. And helping the arsonist burn the forest so they could blame it on climate change.

I hear we won't be able to go up the McKenzie for months. This did not do ANYBODY any good.

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Turn the grief into something useful. We have some smart people in Oregon. Let's design a go-anywhere, park-it-right-in-the-fire-and-it-don't-care, 1,000 gallon self-protecting stream-projecting positive-pressure stay-in-the-cab type fire truck. I gots plenty ideas. Make the equipment easy to operate and park one in every small town Fill it from the top, fill it from a hose, don't matter doesn't care. All-mechanical high reliability diesel engine, burly-stout, big push bumper, 3" of ground clearance under the frame, run on Rockwell axles that'll take a .50 bullet and keep intact, and paint it with that black exhaust paint so even the paint is tough and pretty much flameproof. Fireproof glass, insulated cab, and a hell-for-stout radio in it. Let's ALSO be talking about fire protection boundaries around homes, built-up areas, small towns, and large ones. How do we prevent this B.S. from happening next year? Show of hands, who knows how to drive a standard transmission? Any old deuce and a halfs parked someplace that we can use as a system development testbed? Let's do this. Make an Oregon Fire Truck. Never again. And, have chainsaw safety classes down at the fire house. Because safety.

All thanks to our Bitch Governor that called for a STAND DOWN ORDER so she could ask for Federal Aid when they grew Out of Control! Resulting in over a Million acres burned and 10 Oregonians to BURN TO DEATH! Average citizen would be up on MURDER CHARGES but apparently the governor gets a PASS ON MASS MURDER!

Thank you to all who are battling this emergency...

Thank you for your hard work! 🙏

What about the millions of acres of private timberlands?

it was ARSON

Still tinder-dry out there please please please be extra careful. Even just the interface could be invitation to disaster with that muffler.

And what is the plan for commercial forest land? They leave TONS of slash, then replant thickly, then clear cut again; repeat cycle? We all know those young mono culture forests with all that slash are highly flammable,

That’s very debatable

The dead dry brush needs to be removed along with all of the other flammable debris. Crews used to do this, maintain fire trails, help out the logging company's, and do what ever it took to keep the fire danger down. Not rocket science there.

Thank you Gov.

Friends - for 20 years I have spent time in burned landscapes, with fire experts, biologists, foresters and ecologists. I have also visited with home safety experts, firefighters and first responders. Last year I testified numerous times to the Oregon Wildfire Council about the need for Oregonians to harden their homes to fire. I have also spent the last three years with Trip Jennings and Sara Quinn making films about fire in the West and the solutions. The feature length film is called Elemental and it is almost complete. The message from the experts is clear. 1) most big fires are driven by drought and wind (climate) not by the amount of fuels or forest conditions. While vegetation and topography are important factors, remember grasslands and shrublands burn too. In CA this year nearly 65 percent of landscapes that burned so far were not forestlands (as of Sept 6) 2) forest management - thinning, logging, clearing is a shot in the dark at reducing fire severity or risk and oftentimes it increases fire severity and danger. Around homes thinning can help to reduce the immediate risk and provide for defensible space, but in the backcountry or further from homes it makes little to no difference in terms of home safety. And the forest grows back. We do not have enough money to tend 350 million acres, and often the tending is logging that takes the most fire resistant material. 3) in extreme fire weather firefighters just try to help people escape. They don’t have enough “wet stuff to put on the red stuff” as they say. We need to stop believing that firefighting will save us and put out fires. In Detroit-Idanha, the firefighters fled. In Paradise the first responders told us they would have needed EVERY fire truck from ALL of California in town within 1 hour to be able to save SOME of the homes. The fire hit the town in about 2-3 hours after ignition as it moved very rapidly (3x normal rates) through previously logged and salvaged areas. AND, most important 4) if we want to protect homes and communities from fire, then we have to harden our homes to fire, prevent ember penetration and home ignition. We have to make our homes less ignitable. And it is relatively easy and not high cost. Cover vents, clean gutters, hardscape perimeter, use non-flammable materials on the exterior... As to the long held belief, promoted by industry, that it is a problem in our forests, that logging-management-thinning can solve it — well it does not hold up to scrutiny. Trying to make forests less flammable is like trying to make the ocean less wet. Let’s take a look at just one example. Last night the Bear fire in the northern Sierra Nevada blew up. This area has been heavily logged over the past couple of decades--clearcuts, commercial thinning, "salvage" logging of snags, you name it, mostly on private lands but also quite a bit on National Forests too. The Bear fire just dramatically expanded today when it got to this massive area of heavy logging. The fire is now over 200,000 acres (mostly from last 24 hours), and at least three people have been killed as of now. There will likely be more. This situation is very much like the Camp fire that hit Paradise in terms of the direct threat of recent logging to lives and homes, by contributing, along with the dominant force of extreme drought and wind, to very rapid rate of fire spread, giving people little time to evacuate. At this point, anyone--including you and any reporters, agency or university scientists--who is still promoting logging as "fuel reduction", and saying the problem is in our forests, or saying we do not have enough firefighting resources — or denying the fact that drought and wind are the dominant drivers of fire behavior - or not acknowledging the fact that logging may be a substantial additional contributor to increased fire spread and intensity, is really just putting people at greater risk. By Ralph Bloemers

Truth. Now log out all that burned timber and replant accordingly.

Ya think?? Time to thin and sell. Forest service should have SHOVELS not guns

Climate Change Conference where I schooled a IPCC WG II Ph. D. leftmedialies.com/Dave-white-presentation.mp4 see the climate change page. It has a link to a magazine article and video where I explain how the Ipcc’s reports are science fiction. Also a keynote address I will give tomorrow morning . Plant trees!

There are generations of dead trees laying on the ground everywhere. Go look if you have any doubt. Planned logging, cutting permits and collective planned burns are rare. Why?

True story. Don’t believe any other BS

No shit

TRUE

Anyone who has been awake at all during the past 4 decades knows this is FACT...

there used to be fully funded federal work programs that would hire young people and that's what they did year round...one of the programs was called the Young Adult Conservation Corps, Work core programs run by cities, and states that focused that work force on projects in their state...we need a hue infrastructure bill...that covers rehabbing neighborhoods, and fixing roads and bridges, building new schools, and a bullet train system

Do you understand the manpower needed to this on a regular basis? How about every Saturday EVERYONE grab a rake and get out there.

Replanted trees are more flammable than old growth

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False statements

and ARSON set them off ..TRUE STATEMENT

poor forestry management

Fake story, from a conservative invented page!

there are many places not open to take the dry woods I first came to Oregon and that was my job until all came to a holt. ( Many decades ago) no fake news

Experts? After years of ignoring people that took care of these Forest as a way of life now these educated idiots figure it out? WOW

“That there's some good in this world, Mr. Frodo... and it's worth fighting for.” ― Samwise Gamgee

BS

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wyden does not mention the arsonists nor the fedgovs use of DEWs !!!

Arson is the reason for these fires...a lot of them are burning on managed timberland...

“That there's some good in this world, Mr. Frodo... and it's worth fighting for.” ― Samwise Gamgee